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finbar
'aqua technician'
 
 United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 November 2006 : 20:29:31
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I have received an email that contained the following (Dan Cottrall Coaching - www.betterrugbycoaching.com):
New scrummaging law from 2007
A four stage “crouch, touch, pause, engage” sequence for the initial scrum engagement at all levels has been approved as a new law by the IRB council with effect from January 1 2007.
The move is intended to produce a less vigorous scrum engagement sequence in the interest of player safety and to prevent practices such as charging.
The referee will call “crouch” then “touch”. The front rows crouch and using their outside arm each prop touches the point of the opposing prop’s outside shoulder. The props then withdraw their arms. The referee will then call “pause”. Following a pause the referee will then call “engage”. The front rows may then engage. The “engage” call is not a command but an indication that the front rows may come together when ready.
Further amendments reinforcing existing laws are that the scrum must be stationary and the middle line of the scrum must be parallel to the goal lines. A team must not shove the scrum away from the mark before the ball is thrown in.
The front rows must crouch so that when they meet, each player’s head and shoulders are no lower than their hips. This will ensure that both front rows are at a suitable horizontal height.
The changes are expected to improve binding and assist in minimizing collapsing of the front row.
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glover
'on the bench'
  

United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 November 2006 : 20:40:50
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Have they also closed the gap between the props prior to the engagement, in the intention to reduce neck and back problems.
If in doubt..... give it the forwards. BOSH!! |
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legaulois
'tee boy'


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Posted - 27 November 2006 : 22:10:21
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Some emlightened IRB panel is experimenting with hands, knees & bumps-a-daisy between the pause & engage for introduction next season.
This is strongly supported by the Old Morrisdancerians Rugby Club
....then restrict scrummaging to back row only ....!
Take away the front five and there wouldnt be any dangerous elements on the park lol!!!
Funnily enough this has been experimented & strongly supported by the Aussies! No wonder looking at their scrunnaging over the past few months!
Wot a load of cobblers! |
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glover
'on the bench'
  

United Kingdom
251 Posts |
Posted - 27 November 2006 : 22:21:36
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Very funny. It is only what i had herd and was enquiring about it.
If in doubt..... give it the forwards. BOSH!! |
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oldcorn
Moderator
   

United Kingdom
638 Posts |
Posted - 27 November 2006 : 22:31:17
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| "Old Morrisdancerians Rugby Club" - do Ian and Stuart Hamilton play for them these days ?!? |
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fred flintstone
'cutting oranges'

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Posted - 28 November 2006 : 00:19:33
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quote: Originally posted by legaulois
....then restrict scrummaging to back row only ....!
Sha'mon Barney, its 7's all the way yabba dabba doooooo, It's about time they took them forwards out of the equation, all they do is take up all the changing room space, punch the door, then eat all the food after the match......
Yabba Dabba Dooooooo |
Edited by - fred flintstone on 28 November 2006 00:21:22 |
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halifaxbeest
'on the bench'
  

United Kingdom
337 Posts |
Posted - 28 November 2006 : 08:16:50
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Errr...I'll have to put my ref hat on here - development level refs (i.e. the ones that do games in Mids 2E and below to level 10) have already been briefed on this. I'll try to clarify here.
The new engage sequence is Crouch-Touch-Pause-Engage.
However, once the props have 'touched', they don't have to continue touching into engage. In fact, we were encouraged to get the props to drop the touch once they had sighted their target and were ready to engage - so the scrum's not actually changing materially at all. Therefore, it will result in less collapsed scrums and fewer cold backs waiting for the ball whilst 6 fat boys have a lying-down contest on halfway (this last part is not in the IRB Continuum, this is just my POV.). I can understand why some people are upset, but I don't think this will, in practice, stop any contest for the ball at the scrum - especially as there'll now be a zero-tolerance on not-straight feeds at the scrum. Also, at certain levels, it will open up the game and make it more about the ball in hand, not watching scrum after scrum. If anyone has any questions, please give me a ahout - hopefully I can allay any fears about the new scrum ruling.
I just called to say I love MMUUURRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH 3:-O |
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Ze German
'on the bench'
  

United Kingdom
323 Posts |
Posted - 28 November 2006 : 08:26:52
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| Why does the scrum half have to throw the ball in? That sounds like it might make it a bit more interesting for the hooker! How far away does the scrum half stand when throwing in? 10 yards would make it interesting. |
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